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I just finished reading this article by Jonah Goldberg. I couldn't agree more:
I find Darwin fish offensive. First, there's the smugness. The undeniable
message: Those Jesus fish people are less evolved, less sophisticated than
we Darwin fishers.
The hypocrisy is even more glaring. Darwin fish are often stuck next
to bumper stickers promoting tolerance or admonishing random
motorists that "hate is not a family value." But the whole point of the
Darwin fish is intolerance; similar mockery of a cherished symbol
would rightly be condemned as bigoted if aimed at blacks or women
or, yes, Muslims.

As Christopher Caldwell once observed in the Weekly Standard,
Darwin fish flout the agreed-on etiquette of identity politics. "Namely:
It's acceptable to assert identity and abhorrent to attack it. A plaque
with 'Shalom' written inside a Star of David would hardly attract notice;
a plaque with 'Usury' written inside the same symbol would be an
outrage."

But the most annoying aspect of the Darwin fish is the false bravado
it represents. It's a courageous pose without consequence. Like so
much other Christian-baiting in American popular culture, sporting
your Darwin fish is a way to speak truth to power on the cheap.
I've never understood this hypocrisy either. Why is alright to ridicule people of
the Christian faith but other faiths are off limits in Western societies? I don't think
any religious faith should be demeaned.

Last year I was perplexed when a television showed Christian teens stoning someone.
I thought it was a relentless attack just for the sake of being provocative. I just don't
understand where this disdain comes from? It doesn't make sense to me.

I've also noticed a tendency to be inconsistent with which religious speech we find
appropriate. Michelle Malkin posted a story today about a kid who got a failing grade
because he drew a cross and wrote "John 3:16." After reading stories like these I
wonder if we take our religious freedoms for granted here in America.

I acknowledge I'm so very fortunate to live in a country where I am free to express
myself religiously. I'm not persecuted. I'm not jailed. I don't have to practice my faith
secretly. For this I am a grateful person. I'm also fortunate that I live in a country
where people can also freely be critical of any religion without any fear.

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daedalus on 4:03 PM, November 14, 2008 said...

Must be Xian reasoning... you are offended by hypocrisy and intolerance, but practice a violent and homophobic religion; and call for people to respect a persons private beliefs - but then openly tout them and cry persecution when people react.

Maybe you should care less about what people think of your religion and care more about this life and how you can make the world better - instead of selfishly trying to save your own ass for some mystical afterlife... ;-)

Teresa on 4:26 PM, November 14, 2008 said...

I don't what to say to. I don't think my religion is violent or hateful. I love people.

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Than Teresa, you are ignorant and blind. You claim to love all creatures, yadda yadda yadda... yet condemn those that don't believe in what you do.

Oh wait, you don't even believe in it fully. Only what you WANT to believe in. When was the last time you ate shell fish? Sinner

Shadrach on 10:12 AM, December 09, 2008 said...

Daedalus and Anonymous,

1: the Darwin fish is mockery. It's only hypocracy if there are other bumper stickers like 'coexist.' That claim is on an individual basis. By the way, I've never seen a fish with legs. Nor is there a transitional fossil of one.

2: Christianity is not violent nor homophobic. Kooks in the faith act that way, but again, Christians condemn such behavior.

3: daedalus is making the assumption that Teresa too is a hypocrite and does nothing to make the world better. We don't know that.

4: Teresa (or any Christian) does not condemn those who do not believe. Only God condemns (in Xian lingo: judges)

5: She (or any Xian) is not "trying to save his/her ass." Faith in Jesus saves it. Done. No need to keep trying.

6: Xians are not selfish--their preaching, discipling, and all that annoying stuff is to get other people to be saved from hell.

RMS Titanic analogy: Selfish is quietly slipping on the lifeboat, telling others about the lifeboats is loving. But many scoff, saying 'This ship is unsinkable.)

7: Mystical afterlife? Maybe, maybe not. That is an issue of belief and faith so I'll grant you that.

8: Shell fish? I'm not sure what that means? That's Old Testament dietary restrictions. In the New Testament God tells Peter through a vision that all food is okay to eat.

9: Sinner. Yes. scripture says 'all are sinners.' That's why (Christians believe) are all going to hell. Except those who know where the lifeboats are.

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:) it seems this conversation is over... it's a little weird, this is the first place I've seen people take christ out of christian (wtf is xian?)... its funny how this 'anti-jesus' movement creeps about. And how intellectuals these days think they're somehow "above" any kind of silly theism...

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Greg on 3:13 PM, March 17, 2009 said...

the only reason you view this as intolerance is because of your own intolerance towards it. it is a symbol of secular intellectualism. in no way does it promote intolerance. i dont find your crosses and stars of david offensive unless of course they are displayed on government owned property. We have timelessly used symbols to express ideas as human beings. Stop claiming intolerance before you take a deep look on your won views towards people who do not share your beliefs.

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